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but you have nevada which is leaning towards obama and wisconsin is still leaning towards obama. ohio, is my view, is in dispense able. >> where did you read that nevada is leaning towards obama. >> i haven't seen a poll are romney leading first. it's one-third hispanic, and this heavily unionized. >> i have people there and they don't think that at all. >> that's the wrong neighborhood. >> here's the point i want to make. the polls today are regarded at microscopically perfect, you and i know, say ten years ago when you were still doing this show because of your tenacity, and because of my leniency. >> 0 years ago. >> 20 years ago, 30, polls were regarded as a rock makes, these polls today have -- as approximation, these polls today are -- >> there is money to be made. >> one or two -- [ talking over one another ] >> i hate to see this come to an end. >> polls are not that precise. >> if they weren't that precise, why do politicians spend that much money on them? >> they are false idols. they are worshiping the false idol. >> the media are more obsessed with polling than before.
but you have nevada which is leaning towards obama and wisconsin is still leaning towards obama. ohio, is my view, is in dispense able. >> where did you read that nevada is leaning towards obama. >> i haven't seen a poll are romney leading first. it's one-third hispanic, and this heavily unionized. >> i have people there and they don't think that at all. >> that's the wrong neighborhood. >> here's the point i want to make. the polls today are regarded at...
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he kicks it off in the battleground blitz in wisconsin, nevada, and colorado. when he makes his final campaign stop in des moines, iowa, at a rally with the first lady, that's the only stop that she joins him on. the president will have visited eight of the nine battleground states. the one that he's not going to is north carolina. the 2012 presidential election could hinge on this, will the firewall of iowa, ohio, and wisconsin hold up? and you only have to look at the president's travel over the last five days of the campaign to find out that's where the campai campaign believes the race will be decided. one of them has to be the state of ohio. the president has events in ohio four out of five days on the trail. he stopped in iowa, wisconsin, and colorado two times, each will be in florida and virginia, new hampshire, nevada just once before this campaign is over. today the president will begin laying out what aides say is his closing argument, making a stronger case for government. he will point to the way forward to real change. it will say this apparently
he kicks it off in the battleground blitz in wisconsin, nevada, and colorado. when he makes his final campaign stop in des moines, iowa, at a rally with the first lady, that's the only stop that she joins him on. the president will have visited eight of the nine battleground states. the one that he's not going to is north carolina. the 2012 presidential election could hinge on this, will the firewall of iowa, ohio, and wisconsin hold up? and you only have to look at the president's travel over...
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today will campaign in virginia while his running mate paul ryan meets supporters in colorado and in nevada. >>> still ahead this morning on "way too early," a tale of two cities. a lan of demarcation separates manhattan with power from the manhattan completely in the dark. we'll show you the different worlds on the same island. >>> plus, john stuart offered his take on that divided city. a little comic relief in the middle of all this from john stewart and a check on the weather when "way too early" come back. i'm freaking out man. why? i thought jill was your soul mate. no, no it's her dad. the general's your soul mate? dude what? no, no, no. he's, he's on my back about providing for his little girl. hey don't worry. e-trade's got a killer investing dashboard. everything is on one page, your investments, quotes, research... it's like the buffet last night. whatever helps you understand man. i'm watching you. oh yeah? well i'm watching you, watching him. [ male announcer ] try the e-trade 360 investing dashboard. well i'm watching you, watching him. ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs
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i think it will bes hispanic states near me, colorado, nevada. >> i will take the florida. >> let me ask you one last question do you think reagan said with fewer americans working when they took office 1-6 in poverty 17 million more of americans on today stamps. 6 trillion in debt. are you going to say we were better off than a year ago. the president has created 5.7 nobs after a month mt. 800,000 emotion of god. >> i thing you would use the receipt tick of resing voting. sploetling. i appreciate you being hasn'ter, i hough >> not many democrats appear they are in trouble. they have no card left to play but the race card for some. the president's supporters are trying to hide behind their so-called jokes. he is making controversial comments. he said he was joking and kidding. lathes example comes to us courtesy of the million dollar donor to barack obama bill maher. >>> i would just like to say for any one thinking about voting for mitt romney, if you are thinking about it i would like to make this one place. black people know who you are. they will come after you. kidding. >> i am
i think it will bes hispanic states near me, colorado, nevada. >> i will take the florida. >> let me ask you one last question do you think reagan said with fewer americans working when they took office 1-6 in poverty 17 million more of americans on today stamps. 6 trillion in debt. are you going to say we were better off than a year ago. the president has created 5.7 nobs after a month mt. 800,000 emotion of god. >> i thing you would use the receipt tick of resing voting....
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iowa, we're going to win wisconsin, nevada, we're going to win new hampshire. i think we have a chance of winning virginia and florida. it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> joining me now, msnbc/"time" magazine nbc political analyst mark halperin. we just went through all those polls. the national polls, we know it's not a national referendum, but they all tell the same story. it's tied. the president seems to be leading but all within the margin of error. where is this race one day out? >> all within the margin of error. the obama campaign argued from the beginning that they're stronger in the swing states, they've targeted those states from the beginning. they don't look at the national number. in those swing states like in ohio they've targeted white working class voters on the auto bailout. and some of other battle ground states they've targeted hispanics and younger voters and african-americans and women. the president's team has a logic to what they've done. until we see the actual results, there's reason to believe that they're stronger
iowa, we're going to win wisconsin, nevada, we're going to win new hampshire. i think we have a chance of winning virginia and florida. it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> joining me now, msnbc/"time" magazine nbc political analyst mark halperin. we just went through all those polls. the national polls, we know it's not a national referendum, but they all tell the same story. it's tied. the president seems to be leading but all within the margin of error. where...
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leading by more than 2 in nevada, ohio and iowa. as a slighter margins in new hampshire and colorado, governor romney only leads in more at a point in florida and is narrowly ahead in virginia. that gives a reason for them to, let's say, be concerned. >> they need to be concerned because it is not just the enthuse yack enthuse em that's missing p. this is what barack obama does better than anyone else. man test right now in the early vote of look at nevada, north carolina, iowa. mitt romney with needs to win 54 to 60% of the remaining votes in the states in order to drop into the victory. that's a huge lift. i think when you couple the fact that democratic base is much more fired up with the fact that obama for america has been organizing for the last four years. they keep talking about pennsylvania, you can't drop into pennsylvania the weekend before an election, and expect to tip the vote just by buying ads when you have the other team with a fantastic ground operation. >> drive by campaigning won't do it. when you look at pennsyl
leading by more than 2 in nevada, ohio and iowa. as a slighter margins in new hampshire and colorado, governor romney only leads in more at a point in florida and is narrowly ahead in virginia. that gives a reason for them to, let's say, be concerned. >> they need to be concerned because it is not just the enthuse yack enthuse em that's missing p. this is what barack obama does better than anyone else. man test right now in the early vote of look at nevada, north carolina, iowa. mitt...
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points. >> but democrats trail in target states i mentioned but especially virginia, ohio, iowa and nevada. early absentee voting is not where it was for democrats in 2008. >> we had a thing back and forth and every single one of these is a toss up. each one. including pennsylvania. but, tomorrow, mitt romney 8 be in virginia, virginia, ohio, and new hampshire. look at states, and he has virginia, he has to work on ohio, and new hampshire is a toss up. bob: why he is going there? >> he has to win. obama will be in wisconsin, ohio, and iowa, both spending time in ohio. but interesting that obama goes to wisconsin which would indicate he is concerned about wisconsin. if ohio goes to romney, obama has to have wisconsin. >> speaking of ohio, the g.o.p. is 250,000 votes ahead of where they were four years ago in early voting. that is a state that obama won by 260,000 votes so they is wiped out the obama lead. >> i am not a numbers person, i try to pull out of that but i try to look at feeling. certainly, when you look at ohio in 2008, i don't think there is any republican who could have sat her
points. >> but democrats trail in target states i mentioned but especially virginia, ohio, iowa and nevada. early absentee voting is not where it was for democrats in 2008. >> we had a thing back and forth and every single one of these is a toss up. each one. including pennsylvania. but, tomorrow, mitt romney 8 be in virginia, virginia, ohio, and new hampshire. look at states, and he has virginia, he has to work on ohio, and new hampshire is a toss up. bob: why he is going there?...
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i think it will bes hispanic states near me, colorado, nevada. >> i will take the florida. >> let me ask you one last question do you think reagan said with fewer americans working when they took office 1-6 in poverty 17 million more of americans on today stamps. 6 trillion in debt. are you going to say we were better off than a year ago. the president has created 5.7 nobs after a month mt. 800,000 emotion of god. >> i thing you would use the receipt tick of resing voting. sploetling. i appreciate you being hasn'ter, i hough [ dennis ] it only took two minutes for this town to be destroyed. to a little girl who lived through it, this is more than a teddy bear. it's a step towards normal. it's why allstate catastrophe teams not only have hot coffee and help for grownups... they've also handed out more than twelve thousand teddy bears to kids. people come first... everything else is second. that's allstate's stand. are you in good hands? huh? you're not my dad ahhhhh!!! hey honey, back feels better, little dancing tonight, you and me? hey boy, you wanna go for a walk? dr. scholl's pro
i think it will bes hispanic states near me, colorado, nevada. >> i will take the florida. >> let me ask you one last question do you think reagan said with fewer americans working when they took office 1-6 in poverty 17 million more of americans on today stamps. 6 trillion in debt. are you going to say we were better off than a year ago. the president has created 5.7 nobs after a month mt. 800,000 emotion of god. >> i thing you would use the receipt tick of resing voting....
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same with nevada. areas of ohio look clear, too. there's talk of the nor'easter heading through the mid atlantic and off the east coast. it doesn't look to be a horrible storm. regardless fshl regardless, power outages in, we will see a chance of showers out there. but precip amounts should be very light. everything looks good, lynn, pretty much across the country for election day. couldn't ask for anything much better. >> bill, thanks so much. >>> in addition to the white house werks v, we'll take a look at the hotly contested senate races. plus let's go back to nbc's democracy plaza right here at the heart of rockefeller center. you can also check us out on the web at nbcnews.com. you're watching "early today." ♪ ♪ >>> a look there for you. bruce springsteen performing at an obama campaign event last night in columbus, ohio. speaking of the boss, it was in his home state of new jersey where officials are making sure voters can cast their ballots despite the devastation from hurricane sandy. voters whose polling places were flo
same with nevada. areas of ohio look clear, too. there's talk of the nor'easter heading through the mid atlantic and off the east coast. it doesn't look to be a horrible storm. regardless fshl regardless, power outages in, we will see a chance of showers out there. but precip amounts should be very light. everything looks good, lynn, pretty much across the country for election day. couldn't ask for anything much better. >> bill, thanks so much. >>> in addition to the white house...
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i think it will bes hispanic states near me, colorado, nevada. >> i will take the florida. >> let me ask you one last question do you think reagan said with fewer americans working when they took office 1-6 in poverty 17 million more of americans on today stamps. 6 trillion in debt. are you going to say we were better off than a year ago. the president has created 5.7 nobs after a month mt. 800,000 emotion of god. >> i thing you would use the receipt tick of resing voting. sploetling. i appreciate you being hasn'ter, i hough you are ka dual support. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. new pink lemonade 5-hour energy? 5-hour energy supports the avon foundation for women breast cancer crusade. so i can get the energized feeling i need and support a great cause? i'm sold. pink lemonade 5-hour energy? yeah and a portion of every sale goes to the avon foundation for women breas
i think it will bes hispanic states near me, colorado, nevada. >> i will take the florida. >> let me ask you one last question do you think reagan said with fewer americans working when they took office 1-6 in poverty 17 million more of americans on today stamps. 6 trillion in debt. are you going to say we were better off than a year ago. the president has created 5.7 nobs after a month mt. 800,000 emotion of god. >> i thing you would use the receipt tick of resing voting....
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but obama looks to have nevada locked up despite the awful unemployment situation in that state. our pal larry sabato teaches at the university of virginia is predicting an obama win, 290 electoral votes to romney's 248 if obama -- if obama is the winner, that tally sounds about right. but carl rove sees it the opposite way. mr. rove will be here in a moment. of course dick morris continues to maintain that romney will win big. carrying pennsylvania and ohio, which would assure a romney victory. both morris and sabato will be on this program wednesday. again, i cannot make a prediction tonight. it pains pee. i don't like it. but i have to be honest. i can't do it. because even at this late date, some americans could still vote either way. both candidates still have a fighting chance. and that's the memo. next on the run down. the aforementioned carl rove will tell me how tragically wrong i am or something. and then, krauthammer, hume, powers, march will all weighen in n. on the fact tour tomorrow. we'll be right back. >> bill: what will happen in the presidential vote tomorrow. w
but obama looks to have nevada locked up despite the awful unemployment situation in that state. our pal larry sabato teaches at the university of virginia is predicting an obama win, 290 electoral votes to romney's 248 if obama -- if obama is the winner, that tally sounds about right. but carl rove sees it the opposite way. mr. rove will be here in a moment. of course dick morris continues to maintain that romney will win big. carrying pennsylvania and ohio, which would assure a romney...
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i've been in here 23, 24 days, i think we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. it also could be close. but the firewall here of ohio, wisconsin, iowa -- >> talk to your stake holders. tell them what they should do on tuesday. >> if you can vote early, vote earlier. but don't just vote, bring your mom, your dad, bring your cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. the middle depends on it. >> vice president joe biden, thank you for your time. good luck. >>> north carolina and colorado look pretty tough. coming up, where does the race stand? we have the results of the latest and last poll before the election. that's next. and we have our top people here tonight. chuck todd, howard fineman, eugene robinson and others. the big question is about big bill. if president obama does win re-election tuesday night, the person he can thank the most perhaps probably is the guy he was campaigning with in new hampshire, bill clinton, the big dog could be the one who pulls him over the
i've been in here 23, 24 days, i think we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. it also could be close. but the firewall here of ohio, wisconsin, iowa -- >> talk to your stake holders. tell them what they should do on tuesday. >> if you can vote early, vote earlier. but don't just vote, bring your mom, your dad, bring your cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. the...
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so we're also looking at tight races in places like nevada, wisconsin, virginia. we got a handful of really tight races only won by a point or two. >> what about ohio? >> you know, very interesting. the parties have been looking at very different polling between democrat sherrod brown and republican josh mandell. democrats are not worried about sherrod brown. but republicans say we show it much closer. i suspect though, brown pulls it out. >> in the house, in florida particularly, you have some really controversial candidates. one is very outspoken tea party republican allen west and the other is allen grayson, running to return to the house. >> any state that could elect either one is an accepting and forgiving electorate or they can't make up their minds. allen west has actually put up his opponent's mug shot from when he was 19 years old and that's unprecedented. most tea party representatives, no matter how controversial they are, will be re-elected. >> what about harry reid in nevada? we've seen that he has a machine in nevada and can deliver. >> he has spent
so we're also looking at tight races in places like nevada, wisconsin, virginia. we got a handful of really tight races only won by a point or two. >> what about ohio? >> you know, very interesting. the parties have been looking at very different polling between democrat sherrod brown and republican josh mandell. democrats are not worried about sherrod brown. but republicans say we show it much closer. i suspect though, brown pulls it out. >> in the house, in florida...
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ahead in other key states, including new hampshire, be virginia, florida, wisconsin, colorado, and nevada. and today, a major endorsement coming from new york city's independent mayor michael bloomberg. no question, this is a close race but today in wisconsin the president went after one of the key points in governor romney's closing argument to voters. >> the closing weeks of this campaign, governor romney has been using all his talents as a salesman to dress up these very same policies that failed our country so badly. and he is offering them change. he's saying he's the candidate of change. well, let me tell you, wisconsin, we know what change looks like. and what the governor is offering sure ain't change. >> it sure ain't change. but governor romney is good at changing on every position and doing anything to win. on the trail, he's trying to sound warm and cuddly. he's now taking a soft attack. the new york times quoting him on the trail as saying, democrats love america, too. gee, governor. thanks for that. but that soft attack apparently ends there. because behind the scenes, repub
ahead in other key states, including new hampshire, be virginia, florida, wisconsin, colorado, and nevada. and today, a major endorsement coming from new york city's independent mayor michael bloomberg. no question, this is a close race but today in wisconsin the president went after one of the key points in governor romney's closing argument to voters. >> the closing weeks of this campaign, governor romney has been using all his talents as a salesman to dress up these very same policies...
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. >> what part of nevada are you from? >> we're from australia. >> nevada is a swing state, but colorado is also a swing state. are you getting inundated with ads. >> oh my gosh. it's horrible. >> does it make you more engaged in the process or less. >> less. i turn the station now. i'm not even watching the tv now. i don't want to hear it we got to catch the bus. >> not a good time if you're in vegas. >> i have another headache from my holiday costume. have you seen that show britney and abby? they were conjoined. i was that, britney and abby. i had an extra head. >> who do you think is ahead. >> romney all the way. >> why? >> obama is not the biggest fan here. >> of gambling? >> no, obama is just--nobody likes him here. >> the odds are-- >> they don't like him over here. >> yet you're in agreement. >> i don't like him either. >> how come? >> he sucks. he has ruined the economy in in the last four years basically. he needs to go. >> it's funny to make fun of conjoined twins. >> selma hayek. >> let me ask you a question ab
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all over nevada, wisconsin and here in ohio. all across this country, i'm going to take you on the road with both campaigns in just a minute. first, we have a very interesting election day from the state of new jersey that they tell you about now. it involves you of victims of super storm, sandy who cannot return home or have no home anymore. our joe johns is following us in washington on this story. but what he is following is that new jersey governor chris christy is now saying that people in the affected areas of new jersey, people affected by hurricane sandy can now vote electronically. they can vote by e-mail and they can vote by fax. it is an interesting turn. joe, what are you finding out about this? >> well, it's a very interesting turn, don. as you said, in response to the super storm, the governor has issued a directive. this is for misplaced voters that can submit ballot applications by e-mail or by fax to the county clerk. the clerk sends them a ballot and then they have to return that ballot by about 8:00 p.m. on tu
all over nevada, wisconsin and here in ohio. all across this country, i'm going to take you on the road with both campaigns in just a minute. first, we have a very interesting election day from the state of new jersey that they tell you about now. it involves you of victims of super storm, sandy who cannot return home or have no home anymore. our joe johns is following us in washington on this story. but what he is following is that new jersey governor chris christy is now saying that people in...
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poll numbers we've been seeing, we're going to see that latinos are going to hold florida, virginia, nevada and colorado. what we are seeing is very high support for the president. so what we are seeing is about 74% of latinos saying they are either certain to or very likely to vote for the president and the worst case scenario, 64% of latinos are saying they are certain to vote for the president. is so with that, you are going to secure those states and don't forget, there is still a smattering of latinos in north carolina, wisconsin and iowa. 3%, 4%, but when it is so close, that 3% of mobilized latino turnout is going to make the difference. >> on, let's talk about pennsylvania because when we bring up close, pennsylvania right now, 47 to 47 in a state that normally, the president would have a comfortable lead in. stephanie cutter said on "morning joe" today that it's not realistic that governor romney should make a play for pennsylvania or even think about winning pennsylvania. what's your reaction to that? >> i'm glad they're giving governor romney advice because if he follows the advi
poll numbers we've been seeing, we're going to see that latinos are going to hold florida, virginia, nevada and colorado. what we are seeing is very high support for the president. so what we are seeing is about 74% of latinos saying they are either certain to or very likely to vote for the president and the worst case scenario, 64% of latinos are saying they are certain to vote for the president. is so with that, you are going to secure those states and don't forget, there is still a...
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with races all tied up in places like nevada, arizona, montana, north dakota, wisconsin and connecticut. it could be a nail biter on tuesday night. athena jones, cnn, washington. >>> and in our next hour, the race for the white house appears to be really tight. what happens if the vote is all tieded up. we'll show you what could happen if there's an electoral college tie. from 17 billion chips worldwide to a world of super-connected intelligence. the potential of freescale unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. to investing with knowledge. the potential of td ameritrade unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. customer erin swenson bought so, i'm happy. today. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) happy. i love logistics. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... wi
with races all tied up in places like nevada, arizona, montana, north dakota, wisconsin and connecticut. it could be a nail biter on tuesday night. athena jones, cnn, washington. >>> and in our next hour, the race for the white house appears to be really tight. what happens if the vote is all tieded up. we'll show you what could happen if there's an electoral college tie. from 17 billion chips worldwide to a world of super-connected intelligence. the potential of freescale unlocked....
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what do you make of colorado, nevada, iowa, new hampshire? >> well, look, the easiest way to look at this is even if you look at the real clear politics average which includes a lot of the goofy quinnipiac poles and marist polls. the republicans are winning, indiana,, north carolina, virginia and florida. in fact, if you take a look at that all of the mccain states plus 30s that they are waning and i do think they are going to win, republicans are going to win all four of these states. is they are at 248. then you look at ohio which i think the early vote numbers are clear indication of of what is going to happen in ohio. that s another 18 electoral votes. and then colorado which is, you know, is in the rcp average just under water, 9/10 of a percent. but that is largely because of a couple of outliar polls that have huge numbers more democrats than republicans. i think we are going to win colorado and that gets you 275. and we are going to pick up out of ohio, new hampshire, nevada or minnesota, pennsylvania or wisconsin we are going to pick
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we have wisconsin, nevada, colorado, ohio, florida, and new hampshire. romney with fewer stops planned to so far. the governor planning in virginia, wisconsin, ohio, new hampshire, and colorado as well. we want to bring in thursday's power panel. guys, it's good to have you here. alice, i want to start with you governor romney, as we mentioned, speaking moments ago. he wasn't holding back on his criticisms of the president. take a listen. >> he's got to find something to suggest it's going to be better over the next four years. so he came up with an idea next week, which is he's going to create the department of business. i don't think adding a new chair in his cabinet will help add millions of jobs. >> now that he's back officially on the campaign trail, mitt romney and any post-sandy chivalry is dead. is it risky for him to be doing this so soon in the wake of a disaster, especially in virginia, where they were under orders of sandy's presence coming their way? luckily, they were spared. >> governor romney showed tremendous compassion for those who are
we have wisconsin, nevada, colorado, ohio, florida, and new hampshire. romney with fewer stops planned to so far. the governor planning in virginia, wisconsin, ohio, new hampshire, and colorado as well. we want to bring in thursday's power panel. guys, it's good to have you here. alice, i want to start with you governor romney, as we mentioned, speaking moments ago. he wasn't holding back on his criticisms of the president. take a listen. >> he's got to find something to suggest it's...
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>> if he wins -- have they called iowa and nevada yet? >> they called iowa. >> it's not a growth strategy. >> in my lifetime, and i still got a couple of good years left, will we ever cut spending in this country? >> there is always a reason, it seems to me, in the united states, which is just like europe, never to cut spending. >> the pentagon is like hhs with metals. let's be serious about it. it is not just submarines and hardware. you want to talk taxes first? i want to talk tax hikes last. and spending cuts. this country, we are running trillion dollar budget deficits. we are running close to 4 trillion dollars spending per year. and no one wants to cut $50 billions. >> i'm taking larry out of this. the whole conversation about the fiscal cliff is an acknowledgment that stimulus works. >> i don't know how you get there. >> what he is saying is -- >> spending cuts. >> will reduce growth. >> that's the whole point of a fiscal cliff. >> if you lower the spending share of gdp. you will grow -- >> diana? >> over to you. >> we gave up a gr
>> if he wins -- have they called iowa and nevada yet? >> they called iowa. >> it's not a growth strategy. >> in my lifetime, and i still got a couple of good years left, will we ever cut spending in this country? >> there is always a reason, it seems to me, in the united states, which is just like europe, never to cut spending. >> the pentagon is like hhs with metals. let's be serious about it. it is not just submarines and hardware. you want to talk taxes...
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and we've got nevada 11.8%, that's one of the outliers. >> he has to go with vision and energy about what he can do in the future. and i think that's been lacking in the campaign. all the way back to the democratic convention and the speech which was disappointing, the first debate made him really think about what sort of president he would be for the next four years, never mind the last four. i think he's struggling to put that vision out there and bring that energy and drive that was so important in 2008. >> a criticism about romney is that he hasn't really put out their plans. >> and you think that's just american politics. you have to put out broad idea and concepts. but he's a businessman. he has a good track record of success in business. he has a vice president who is very interested and focused on these issues around how you can get american debt down and run the economy more efficiently. and i think that might make a difference on the day. >> is obama loses some of the races that were very excited about the prospects of having a black or mixed race president first time aroun
and we've got nevada 11.8%, that's one of the outliers. >> he has to go with vision and energy about what he can do in the future. and i think that's been lacking in the campaign. all the way back to the democratic convention and the speech which was disappointing, the first debate made him really think about what sort of president he would be for the next four years, never mind the last four. i think he's struggling to put that vision out there and bring that energy and drive that was so...